1 00:00:02,869 --> 00:00:01,490 I'd like to report something that 2 00:00:05,150 --> 00:00:02,879 happened to my girlfriend and I last 3 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:05,160 night in Topanga Canyon okay would you 4 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:06,480 describe it please 5 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:10,260 and by the way we call the Malibu police 6 00:00:14,690 --> 00:00:11,760 and they said that three other people 7 00:00:17,390 --> 00:00:14,700 had reported similar things it's just 8 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:17,400 nothing for imagining okay 9 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:18,720 um 10 00:00:25,970 --> 00:00:24,300 one Pacific Coast Highway are you 11 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:25,980 familiar with that area yes I am 12 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:28,920 and we've backtracked and went decided 13 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:32,399 to go up to panga Canyon Road which is a 14 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:34,380 it goes pretty high up into the Canyon 15 00:00:38,090 --> 00:00:36,120 Country 16 00:00:41,330 --> 00:00:38,100 do you know where Japan Canyon is yes 17 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:41,340 okay very familiar with it all right um 18 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:43,559 there's a 19 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:46,320 place where old Topanga Canyon goes to 20 00:00:51,889 --> 00:00:49,860 New Topanga Canyons there's a real high 21 00:00:57,010 --> 00:00:51,899 ledge that goes deep deep down you can 22 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:57,020 Overlook the canyon okay at any rate 23 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:00,000 this gets weirder as it goes on 24 00:01:06,590 --> 00:01:02,160 out of nowhere 25 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:06,600 appeared over our car a brilliant 26 00:01:12,670 --> 00:01:09,540 brilliant brilliant light 27 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:12,680 that was hovering about I'd say 50 feet 28 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:19,550 and uh at first we thought it was a 29 00:01:22,910 --> 00:01:21,299 helicopter a police helicopter or 30 00:01:25,010 --> 00:01:22,920 something except that we realized that 31 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:25,020 we didn't hear any sound 32 00:01:30,289 --> 00:01:27,180 and we looked up and we could see 33 00:01:31,730 --> 00:01:30,299 clearly the defined shape of a 34 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:31,740 uh 35 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:34,979 a pie shaped object a saucerer I mean I 36 00:01:38,690 --> 00:01:37,200 hate to you know use that term saucer 37 00:01:41,390 --> 00:01:38,700 type object 38 00:01:44,030 --> 00:01:41,400 there was a rim we could see a rim and 39 00:01:44,810 --> 00:01:44,040 then within the rim was this just one 40 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:44,820 big 41 00:01:57,230 --> 00:01:53,749 yes okay was that in the form of a beam 42 00:02:04,249 --> 00:01:58,510 um 43 00:02:08,990 --> 00:02:04,259 it was a uh wide cone okay 44 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:09,000 a wide cone covered uh oh I'd say a good 45 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:12,000 maybe 50 feet diameter okay but it was 46 00:02:16,610 --> 00:02:13,800 very very bright 47 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:16,620 and anyway we turned the car around and 48 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:18,480 we decided to go back down the canyon 49 00:02:22,369 --> 00:02:20,459 and this damn thing kept following us it 50 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:22,379 kept 51 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:24,300 at the speed we were going at the same 52 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:26,400 speed we were going it was following us 53 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:28,500 it was it was above our 54 00:02:32,990 --> 00:02:31,200 car about 50 feet I say 55 00:02:34,910 --> 00:02:33,000 and we kept looking up and it kept it 56 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,920 was there and if we would go faster it 57 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:36,720 would go faster if we would slow down it 58 00:02:40,970 --> 00:02:38,580 would slow down 59 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,980 and we have a distinct impression that 60 00:02:46,610 --> 00:02:42,720 was pursuing us 61 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:46,620 the only noise I could I felt that we 62 00:02:55,309 --> 00:02:53,750 the sound that a Transformer would make 63 00:02:57,890 --> 00:02:55,319 like a hum all right all right 64 00:03:01,309 --> 00:02:57,900 high-pitched Tom okay 65 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:01,319 then I told my girlfriend we better get 66 00:03:05,630 --> 00:03:03,840 out of here so I accelerated the car but 67 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,640 you got to be very careful with Topanga 68 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:07,920 Canyon because it's a very windy 69 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:09,200 um 70 00:03:15,410 --> 00:03:12,480 it's a very windy road 71 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:15,420 and uh when I tried to accelerate the 72 00:03:19,790 --> 00:03:16,140 car 73 00:03:22,190 --> 00:03:19,800 my engine one out the lights went out 74 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:22,200 everything went out okay and we got out 75 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:24,180 of the car 76 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:26,879 thinking that we were gonna run away I'm 77 00:03:32,210 --> 00:03:29,220 telling you my girlfriend was almost to 78 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:32,220 the state of Hysteria in fact later on I 79 00:03:36,890 --> 00:03:34,860 we went to Cedar Sinai emergency room 80 00:03:38,509 --> 00:03:36,900 when I got home when we got to our home 81 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:38,519 here 82 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:40,500 um 83 00:03:45,949 --> 00:03:42,900 when we got out of the car we got even a 84 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:45,959 better look at it we saw that it was not 85 00:03:51,949 --> 00:03:48,540 a helicopter 86 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:51,959 and within I'd say 87 00:03:57,289 --> 00:03:54,060 seconds 88 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,299 it just went straight up in the air and 89 00:04:02,149 --> 00:03:59,040 as quickly as it appeared that's how 90 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:05,270 and anyway we got back into the car and 91 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:08,040 the car started 92 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:11,040 and we got down to the coast Highway we 93 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:13,080 came home to Los Angeles and my 94 00:04:17,150 --> 00:04:15,540 girlfriend was very bad to help me 95 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:17,160 shaken up she's a nurse I'm an 96 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:18,959 accountant 97 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:23,220 uh we went to cedarsana emergency room 98 00:04:29,450 --> 00:04:27,300 and we have broken out on in blisters 99 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,460 on the backs of our hands 100 00:04:33,230 --> 00:04:31,199 my girlfriend where she was wearing a 101 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:33,240 necklace you could see the mark where 102 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:35,820 the necklace was I wear glasses you can 103 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:40,139 see on my face uh glass the glass mark 104 00:04:42,610 --> 00:04:42,060 and we have 105 00:05:10,010 --> 00:04:42,620 a 106 00:05:12,409 --> 00:05:10,020 police when we got home 107 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:12,419 and uh they said the three other people 108 00:05:17,629 --> 00:05:14,360 had called 109 00:05:19,129 --> 00:05:17,639 concerning similar incidents 110 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:19,139 that evening 111 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:21,120 it's the same area in the same area the 112 00:05:25,249 --> 00:05:22,639 China Canyon area 113 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:25,259 there was an officer Burns that I had 114 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:29,990 we're going to go back to the doctors 115 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,880 today at 2 30 so I can't stay too long 116 00:05:35,930 --> 00:05:34,320 and I don't want to get terribly 117 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:35,940 involved with the 118 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:38,880 even the doctor said I should I I could 119 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:42,200 report this I don't I'm not prone to 120 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:44,280 [Music] 121 00:05:48,290 --> 00:05:46,740 this far out situations sir but it was 122 00:05:50,330 --> 00:05:48,300 the most amazing thing I've ever seen in 123 00:05:54,290 --> 00:05:50,340 my life and really quite frightening 124 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:54,300 now is your girlfriend at RN yes now 125 00:05:59,930 --> 00:05:56,880 what time did that occur it occurred I 126 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,940 would say approximately at 12 30. in the 127 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:01,440 evening 128 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:04,320 yes my girlfriend works at the Wadsworth 129 00:06:13,249 --> 00:06:09,710 what was the name of that Veterans 130 00:06:16,490 --> 00:06:14,810 now do you have any estimate of the 131 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:16,500 diameter of the object it was about 50 132 00:06:26,570 --> 00:06:23,749 now do you remember the color that cone 133 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:28,189 um white 134 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:30,060 okay 135 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:33,600 white with uh um but there was some blue 136 00:06:42,350 --> 00:06:39,590 okay now when you were exposed to that 137 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:42,360 uh beam of light did you detect any 138 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:48,650 you know but our skin tingled 139 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:51,360 okay and it felt like there was a little 140 00:06:56,809 --> 00:06:54,120 I don't know electrical feeling in your 141 00:06:59,090 --> 00:06:56,819 skin okay 142 00:07:00,409 --> 00:06:59,100 and then for a brief moment to tell you 143 00:07:01,790 --> 00:07:00,419 the truth neither of us even could 144 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:01,800 remember what happened it was almost as 145 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:07,010 that you feel that that was a very short 146 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:08,100 duration 147 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:11,140 I think so I have no way of knowing okay 148 00:07:16,249 --> 00:07:13,199 [Music] 149 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:16,259 did you detect any unusual odors 150 00:07:25,129 --> 00:07:22,249 come to think of it yeah 151 00:07:25,139 --> 00:07:28,430 I would say 152 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:31,969 like burnt cinnamon okay 153 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:34,080 did you have any trouble restarting your 154 00:07:37,969 --> 00:07:35,759 car 155 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:37,979 foreign 156 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:40,380 at that point I can't to tell you the 157 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:43,139 truth I can't remember okay 158 00:07:48,589 --> 00:07:45,060 I don't know I think maybe 159 00:07:51,650 --> 00:07:48,599 a couple clicks from started 160 00:07:54,610 --> 00:07:51,660 okay have you seen any other problems 161 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:54,620 with the car since you got home no okay 162 00:07:59,330 --> 00:07:56,819 now were there any other unusual 163 00:08:05,990 --> 00:07:59,340 physical traces uh with you or your lady 164 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:08,029 and how long do you feel this entire uh 165 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:14,570 I feel that it followed us for about 10 166 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:17,880 minutes okay and then out of the car 167 00:08:23,869 --> 00:08:21,360 maybe a minute or so 168 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:23,879 but when we were out of the cars when I 169 00:08:29,629 --> 00:08:25,860 kind of kind of kind of lack of what was 170 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,610 do every people report things like this 171 00:08:36,290 --> 00:08:33,599 well yes sir they sure have they've been 172 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:36,300 reporting them for years 173 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:37,800 now what was the name of the doctor you 174 00:08:41,329 --> 00:08:39,180 were going to 175 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:41,339 well we went to the Cedars-Sinai 176 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:43,860 emergency room and I don't recall the uh 177 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:47,459 doctor okay because of my job I really 178 00:08:51,710 --> 00:08:49,380 don't want to get to I understand 179 00:08:53,389 --> 00:08:51,720 invisible because when you talk to when 180 00:08:56,329 --> 00:08:53,399 you talk about listen to people we are 181 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:56,339 going to go see a psychiatrist 182 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,279 I mean I don't we we weren't 183 00:09:03,889 --> 00:09:00,959 hallucinating I didn't make this ration 184 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:06,230 yeah okay can I get your name sir I 185 00:09:09,410 --> 00:09:07,800 don't want to give my name okay is there 186 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,420 any way we can get back to you if we 187 00:09:13,370 --> 00:09:11,519 need more information 188 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:13,380 what more information would you need 189 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:16,200 I'll I'll I'm going to go back to the 190 00:09:24,590 --> 00:09:18,720 doctors I can't call you back it's just 191 00:09:29,930 --> 00:09:27,170 gotta understand a little this is such 192 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:29,940 high strangeness that people tend if it 193 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:31,680 gets out 194 00:09:35,449 --> 00:09:33,600 they tend to look at you 195 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:35,459 because if you're weird or something I 196 00:09:39,650 --> 00:09:37,320 understand 197 00:09:41,690 --> 00:09:39,660 okay what would you like to do after you 198 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:41,700 visit your doctor if you feel like it 199 00:09:48,190 --> 00:09:44,279 we'd like to hear what his diagnosis of 200 00:09:54,370 --> 00:09:52,310 what do they do with all this data 201 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:54,380 what do we do with it 202 00:09:59,090 --> 00:09:57,839 well we compare it with other similar 203 00:10:02,090 --> 00:09:59,100 cases 204 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:02,100 over the past years which gives us a 205 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:05,279 basis for determining the reality of 206 00:10:09,530 --> 00:10:07,279 what is going on 207 00:10:11,389 --> 00:10:09,540 is this something that the government is 208 00:10:14,329 --> 00:10:11,399 doing no 209 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:14,339 no the uh this type of incident has 210 00:10:18,290 --> 00:10:16,080 occurred 211 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:18,300 uh off and on or throughout the United 212 00:10:24,829 --> 00:10:20,640 States and overseas for the last 40 213 00:10:29,150 --> 00:10:26,810 I've read about things like this but 214 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:29,160 reading it is one thing but when you see 215 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:31,380 it firsthand 216 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:33,540 I I don't know how to explain it I just 217 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,700 I don't know how to explain it 218 00:10:40,970 --> 00:10:38,160 it can be very traumatic 219 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:40,980 and other other people do call you oh 220 00:10:44,930 --> 00:10:43,080 yes we get uh we're average about six 221 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:44,940 calls or those reports a day right now 222 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:47,880 and that's very very quiet 223 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:54,230 well what is thought what is this 224 00:11:01,730 --> 00:10:59,449 well there's of course three or four 225 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:01,740 different uh theories my own personal 226 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:04,740 opinion is that these are objects coming